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Post by Bishou on Jan 15, 2007 22:26:43 GMT 1
ye true, its a bit about luck.. but at least 70 % is about skill.. if youre totally use all youre CD's in about 10 secs youre pretty nerfed... (mostly you dont use CD's in duel but whatever) but you need to use the right skill at the right moment
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Post by randomized on Jan 15, 2007 23:46:20 GMT 1
Ye right on Czar. Even though I think that your skills vs my skills were a part in that duel. Like if we take one of those duel where we just stand front on front of eachother, I can like let you hit me for 2 mins then start and still win. So it is about the moving skills, get behind your target thingy. Crits, and luck with hitting the target and procs ofc.
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Post by perfectbody on Jan 16, 2007 13:14:43 GMT 1
duels in the twinking system no longer work as actual duels... here is my reasons...
on PB (really old now and CBA farming for new stoof so im out of date but stil pwn cos of my skills^^) i am a hp- rogue as opposed to an agility rogue- (wish i didnt have to use this as an example but hey ho) in duels i have only ever lost to bishou once and he wil even admit that i was laging and it was in the area were my camera screws up so really iv won like 20-1 however when bishou goes up against a agility rogue he hardely ever loses eg i dont think any other rogue has beaten bishou more times than he has beaten them.
however the rogues that bishou beats- when i duel them its about 50-50 who wins and if im honest i am really lucky in duels vs rogues and the score should be 10-90 but like i say i am REALLY lucky.
the real test of skill,duel skill,2-2 skill,is knowing certain things. like for example, (rogues who are carrying the flag and use evasion whilst running away, the +50% dodge becomes 0% overall as they canot dodge if you are hitting there back; thus in wsg dont use it runing away its a waste use it in the initial fight if u are targeted and then in 2,3-1 at the start of the fight) (in 2-2 if you are against 2 rogues or (any non caster/hunter) and both people are targeting you walk backwards, this way they hit you less from evasion and your team mate can get more crits/hits on the opponent as they are behind them (nullifying their evasion/dodge chance) and thus you get hit less, they get hit more and you win easier!
1-1 in duels is therefore 60% gear/ enchant orientated and 40% skill! a human rogue canot beat a good hunter as he wil just be kited to death as canot escape wing clip via escape artist. however a good warior can beat a hunter as he can hamstring and stay with the hunter. a pally can use BOF and stay with him. but the rogue can beat both the pally and the warrior! so duels at our lvl are totally race/class dependant. there not a skill or gear matter so much.
im at collage and really bored so this may not make alot of sense but if you read it twice it will lol
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Post by perfectbody on Jan 16, 2007 13:22:14 GMT 1
what im trying to say is wsg is a combination of skill class and gear not just gear or just skill. a team of 10 lvl 10 mages can win a game of wsg vs 10 twinks via just sheeping there way to the flag and sheeping back to there base frost nova to keep distance and go for the win- they wil get thingyed on kb/hk/ all stats but they can still win!
a team is only as good as its weakest link, if your gear is your weak link fix it- if your skills are then practice/ask a better twink how he does things and how to beat a certain player. twinks are not the b all and end all of 10-19 pvp learn the details and your game wil improve thus improving the teams game!
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Post by randomized on Jan 16, 2007 22:41:08 GMT 1
Ye PB, I learned that a dodge rogue doesn't have anything to do with Bishou. And it was the hard way, I won but I wouldn't have won the next one I guess. 'cuz I didn't even consider useing more HP gear at that point, now I use a new set that I have mixed up from different sets I had, it's called HP/DPS.
This gear is for kiters and casters. Hunters I use that gear, cuz I still have like 44% dodge in it with 1451HP unbuffed, in normal gear the bloody hunters always hit me with their wing clip anyways so..... Mages I use it, but instead of the OH wep that I normaly use: 4stamina and 15agi enchant, I use dual Lifestealing for the procs when I get close and it helps with the DPS, allthough the off-hand suxx though imo. Stinging Viper one. That is the gear I use vs every caster atm, if I meet em 1vs1 that is. I think this gear will work against hardcore twink pallys such as Bishou, 'cuz those Lifestealing enchants are a lifesaver. But I might use 15agi in offhand just to get some more HP.
Btw, I am also bored! And long live twinking! No XP in BGs = my day lastnight. In their: Twinks will be eliminated faces!
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Post by Dreaper on Jan 17, 2007 7:11:23 GMT 1
@ Randomized: That you even can keep count on those sets! I' coming up against a twink caster, twink hunter, twink pally... whatever, it's just to start hitting, I hardly lose, atleast not a 1-1.
I could never remember all those... nor afford.
But seems like you're doing great with it, but I dunno if it's that needed...?
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Post by randomized on Jan 17, 2007 10:18:35 GMT 1
I find that 50% of the times I meet a caster and change to that gear I didn't actually need it. But it is always good to be on the safe side, just incase you meet the rare good kiter in WSG, 'tis rare but you find em. But if I'd changed to that gear, then get jumped by a rogue right after, that set does very good for rogues aswell, especialy if I'm buffed, get about 1700HP when buffed in it. w/o lvl 60 buffs. 1700HP + a Lifestealing enchant = a long lasting fight. I'm beggining to like HP rogues, thinking of getting some more HP gear and try it out, would be fun to see.
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Post by Dreaper on Jan 17, 2007 14:44:48 GMT 1
Then you sure would need those boots, as I'm not that interested in HP rogues, I just wan't to kill them fast with the hard crits.
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Post by randomized on Jan 17, 2007 17:13:16 GMT 1
Ye I need a few pairs of noth hat and boots. I want to be an all-around rogue, that could do ANYTHING! O.o
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Post by duality on Jan 20, 2007 13:57:24 GMT 1
just met Druca in BG! good fun, i capped two and beat you guys 3 / 0
im chuffed
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Post by Dreaper on Jan 21, 2007 18:03:55 GMT 1
Oh crap, how could you lose -.-
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Post by duality on Jan 21, 2007 20:01:47 GMT 1
wtf? what up with you tonight you seem a little, sarcastic
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Post by Dreaper on Jan 22, 2007 7:12:19 GMT 1
Ye, I'm so freaking pissed off at twinking; I always miss the good offers on AH I never get the fishy hat while Iilla got two. My opponents are noobs. My guild members couldn't even inform the other guild that the couldn't come to the GvG match, so now they think we're cowards. My SFK farmings were for nothing. I haven't got Tunic of Westfall. I've used the Scouting Gloves that I was about to send to my new twink...
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